DUST Search - Missile Launcher -Minmatar or Caldari

Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

No.......Minmatar might to convention explosives and weaponry, but the Caldari have mastered missile tech.

The Breacher, Talwar, Bellicose, Fleet Scythe, Typhoon, Fleet Typhoon, and Claymore (basically like all the Core Complexion ships) beg to differ. It's not that clear cut in EVE anymore and hasn't been for a while.

Auris Lionesse wrote:

Drones and hybrid = gallente
Missiles and hybrid = caldari
Projectiles and artillery = minmatar
lasers = amarr

If you're not familiar with EVE, Auris' description is misleading at best and doesn't give you the whole picture. His post is based on EVE precedent, and should look more like this. What I have below is much more descriptive and paints a much more complete picture.

Amarr - Primarily Energy (Pulse / Beam) > some T2 ships (Khanid) primarily to Missiles > and a small handful of ships to Drones
Primary EWAR is Tracking disruption, with a secondary to Cap warfare
Fleet support bonus is to Armor (Armor tanking, reps) and Info (EWAR effectiveness, sensors, etc.)
Defense tends to improve armor resists

Caldari - Leans more to Missiles (Short i.e. Torpedoes / Long i.e. Cruise) > Close second is Hybrid (Blaster / Rail), preference for Rails
Primary EWAR is ECM, with a secondary to even more rage inducing ECM
Fleet support bonus is to Siege (Shield tanking, reps) and Info (EWAR effectiveness, sensors, etc.)
Defense tends to improve shield resists

Gallente - Leans more to Hybrids (Blaster / Rail), preference to Blaster > Close second is Drones
Primary EWAR is Sensor Damps, with a secondary to Warp Disruption range
Fleet support bonus is to Armor (Armor tanking, reps) and Skirmish (going fast, long range interdiction)
Defense tends to improve armor repair amount

Minmatar - Preference to Projectiles (Autocannon / Artillery) > Second is Missiles
Primary EWAR is Target Painting, with a secondary to Stasis Webifier range
Fleet support bonus is to Siege (Shield tanking, reps) and Skirmish (going fast, long range interdiction)
Defense tends to improve shield boost amount

So you can see it's not quite as clear cut as "Are missile launchers Minmatar or Caldari?" Traditionally, missile have been a Caldari weapon. Over time as EVE evolved, more Hybrid options were given to Caldari players and more Missile options were given to Minmatar players. This is simply one more way that DUST should follow the amazing success laid out for it in EVE.


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Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1916	Posted - 2014.03.06 04:32:00 - [1] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: True Adamance wrote: No.......Minmatar might to convention explosives and weaponry, but the Caldari have mastered missile tech. The Breacher, Talwar, Bellicose, Fleet Scythe, Typhoon, Fleet Typhoon, and Claymore (basically like all the Core Complexion ships) beg to differ. It's not that clear cut in EVE anymore and hasn't been for a while. Auris Lionesse wrote: Drones and hybrid = gallente Missiles and hybrid = caldari Projectiles and artillery = minmatar lasers = amarr If you're not familiar with EVE, Auris' description is misleading at best and doesn't give you the whole picture. His post is based on EVE precedent, and should look more like this. What I have below is much more descriptive and paints a much more complete picture. Amarr - Primarily Energy (Pulse / Beam) > some T2 ships (Khanid) primarily to Missiles > and a small handful of ships to Drones Primary EWAR is Tracking disruption, with a secondary to Cap warfare Fleet support bonus is to Armor (Armor tanking, reps) and Info (EWAR effectiveness, sensors, etc.) Defense tends to improve armor resists Caldari - Leans more to Missiles (Short i.e. Torpedoes / Long i.e. Cruise) > Close second is Hybrid (Blaster / Rail), preference for Rails Primary EWAR is ECM, with a secondary to even more rage inducing ECM Fleet support bonus is to Siege (Shield tanking, reps) and Info (EWAR effectiveness, sensors, etc.) Defense tends to improve shield resists Gallente - Leans more to Hybrids (Blaster / Rail), preference to Blaster > Close second is Drones Primary EWAR is Sensor Damps, with a secondary to Warp Disruption range Fleet support bonus is to Armor (Armor tanking, reps) and Skirmish (going fast, long range interdiction) Defense tends to improve armor repair amount Minmatar - Preference to Projectiles (Autocannon / Artillery) > Second is Missiles Primary EWAR is Target Painting, with a secondary to Stasis Webifier range Fleet support bonus is to Siege (Shield tanking, reps) and Skirmish (going fast, long range interdiction) Defense tends to improve shield boost amount So you can see it's not quite as clear cut as "Are missile launchers Minmatar or Caldari?" Traditionally, missile have been a Caldari weapon. Over time as EVE evolved, more Hybrid options were given to Caldari players and more Missile options were given to Minmatar players. This is simply one more way that DUST should follow the amazing success laid out for it in EVE. Yes, but right now, for lack of a better knowledge, and for current use in DUST, Missiles= Caldari, Projectile=Minmatar. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1917	Posted - 2014.03.06 05:08:00 - [2] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: EVE lore does not always translate to Dust514 directly. They are getting closer from what I understand but one should never expect a perfect connection. This is an FPS after all. Not a point and click space battle spreadsheet. Yeah, I cringe Every time somebody says "Gallente Dropsuits need to Regen Tank!" Armor reps don't work like that.... Or, when Amarrians go on about how they don't Dual Tank in EVE, they Resist tank! Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.